Automatic backups to Dropbox / cloud storage

newstaircase

sean You are a star! I am so grateful for all your timely and detailed responses to my many questions. I will look forwarding to trying to get this set up and tested tomorrow 😃

sean

You're very welcome!

Mike

I just tried this and when I get to step 4 and open a second shell and enter in ssh myname@opal5.opalstack.com -L 53682:127.0.0.1:53682 -N, I'm given a password prompt but then I get the message "bind: Address already in use" Have you seen that problem before?

klynton

Hey Mike,

Yeah that error means that someone else is using that port number. You can get your own port number to use by creating a Proxy Port application and using the port it assigns you to do step 4.

elena

Should it also work for One Drive Business https://rclone.org/onedrive/ ?

And what would be the best way of backing up the files of some 80 apps, jailed in different home ssh user directories, while using minimum disk space on Opalstack? Would I have to install rclone for each user? Or could I have one single ssh user running the rclone task for all the 80 apps?

I am also considering using https://updraftplus.com/ as most of my websites are basic Wordpress apps.

Any suggestions?

Thank you very much!

sean

elena sorry I missed your question!

I do not use OneDrive so I'm not certain, but I think it should work with OneDrive Business. You might be able to get a definitive answer from the rclone author.

If you're primarily concerned with backing up WP then a plugin like Updraft is a good choice for that.

Mike

Klynton - this is followup to your suggestion to create a proxy port application..

I have created a port - 22825. Would I then in step 4 use this command - ssh myname@opal5.opalstack.com -L 22825:127.0.0.1:53682 -N ? Or should I used the 22825 port in both parts of the syntax?

I have tried this using the command I list above and it asks for my password but once I put the password in, nothing else happens on the screen and in the browser window I still get a site refused to connect error when trying to go to http://127.0.0.1:53682/auth?state=hfwWsjvD5wqLhBSnxx4nSg

Thank you for your assistance.

sean

Mike sorry for the confusion here. If you're seeing "bind: Address already in use" then it means someone on the server is using port 53682, which is the port rclone wants to use. Changing the port on your tunnel won't fix that.

My first suggestion is wait a few minutes and try running the rclone config again. I just went the through the steps and got "address already in use" the first time, but it worked correctly 20 minutes later.

If you can't get that to work, then please do the following:

Install rclone on your own computer.
Repeat the config steps 1-3 we've provided, except for the last step. This time, enter "n" when prompted to do auto-config.
In a separate terminal run rclone authorize "dropbox" on your own computer and follow the onscreen prompts. You'll be issued an authorization token.
Back in your Opalstack terminal, paste the token at the "config_token" prompt and press Enter to complete the setup.

Mike

sean Thanks Sean, I feel like I'm really close! I get the access token from the terminal on my computer and it looks something like this:

Paste the following into your remote machine --->
{"access_token":"xxxxxx","token_type":"bearer","refresh_token":"xxxxxx","expiry":"2022-03-24T14:34:41.8815391-04:00"}
<---End paste

Back in the OpalStack terminal - I get to the Waiting for code... and paste in the following:

{"access_token":"xxxxxx","token_type":"bearer","refresh_token":"xxxxxx","expiry":"2022-03-24T14:34:41.8815391-04:00"}

but when I press Enter, nothing seems to happen. Am I not pasting the right information? I tried both with and without the curly brackets but got the same results.

I appreciate your help!

Mike

sean

Mike from your description it seems like you've pasted the correct info (ie including the opening/closing brackets).

When you get to the point where nothing seems to happen, is your terminal session still working? For example, if you hit CTRL-C does it interrupt the process and drop you back to the prompt?

Mike

sean Hi Sean, yes I can interrupt the process with Ctrl- C. Is the expected behavior to receive a certain message and go back to the command prompt?

sean

Mike yes, the expected behavior is that you'll get a prompt to accept the final config like so:

Use auto config?
 * Say Y if not sure
 * Say N if you are working on a remote or headless machine

y) Yes (default)
n) No
y/n> n
Option config_token.
For this to work, you will need rclone available on a machine that has
a web browser available.
For more help and alternate methods see: https://rclone.org/remote_setup/
Execute the following on the machine with the web browser (same rclone
version recommended):
	rclone authorize "dropbox"
Then paste the result.
Enter a value.
config_token> {"access_token":"xxxxx","token_type":"bearer","refresh_token":"xxxxx",
"expiry":"2022-03-24T16:18:48.275952-06:00"}
--------------------
[dbx]
type = dropbox
token = {"access_token":"xxxxx","token_type":"bearer","refresh_token":"xxxxx",
"expiry":"2022-03-24T16:18:48.275952-06:00"}
--------------------
y) Yes this is OK (default)
e) Edit this remote
d) Delete this remote

I just tried this on your server and had no trouble so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work for you.

Please try it once more and if you run into the same issue, then please email Opalstack support and provide the value you're pasting for config_token - we'll then log in as your Opalstack shell user and try to complete the config ourselves.

bici

I just installed this via the command wget but nothing happens after the download and the move to ~/bin
-bash-4.2$ rclone config
-bash: rclone: command not found

even though clone is on the directory.

is the version correct?

nick

bici As per the original instructions you will have to reference the path to the binary command to use it, eg. ~/bin/rclone

Otherwise, edit the ~/.bash_profile file in your home dir, and update the PATH to include the path to ~/bin, eg: PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin

bici

sorry to be so dense, but this command?? ssh shelluser@opalN.opalstack.com -L 53662:127.0.0.1:53452 -N

do I use my shell user name bici or actually shelluser?

neither seemed to work. although the first time I was asked for a password? password to my ssh account I assume

nick

bici You will use the shell user name that you created in the dashboard, then authenticate with its password. If needed, verify the shell user name or change it's password here on the apps page: https://my.opalstack.com/apps/

Also, be sure to specify the server number. So let us suppose your server is opal4 and your shell user is bici, your command would look like this:

ssh bici@opal4.opalstack.com -L 53682:127.0.0.1:53682 -N

Ref:
https://docs.opalstack.com/user-guide/shell-users/#changing-a-shell-users-password

bici

nick Thank-you thank-you ! It Worked!

so in the good old days on webfaction I was able to backup apps and DBs to my strongspace via rsync.

So I am nowable to backup the Dbs to my dropbox /backups dir.
If I wanted to clone my apps dirs to dropbox can i simply use :
~/bin/rclone sync ~/apps dbx:apps/ after having created the apps dir on dropbox?

cheers!

nick

bici That sounds about right. That command should copy data from local apps dir to the remote one you made on dropbox.

bici

nick great.
another question.
does running rclone overwrite existing files on the remote dropbox directory or add changed files?
In the case where I backup the apps directories I would hope the files on dropbox are overwritten with the new files.

nick

bici Basically, yes, rclone will make sure the source files if newer than what is in the target directory are overwritten.

bici

nick many thanks for all your help.
I am so happy that I have all this working now.